On 16 July 2010 22:56, Luke Bergen
<lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
Yeah, I don't really care all that much about predicate logic bit, I just want them to be connected and applied to the same terbri slot. {joi} would be just as good for my purposes.
It depends on how you put {joi}:
lo pelnimre joi ci'ornimre nanba -- a lemon-and(mixed-with)-lime bar [a bar that has to do with a mixture of such a nature that it makes best sense if it is not conceptually distinguished into what could be seen as "lemon" and what could be seen as "lime", because, for example, the mixture is commonly presumed to be eaten as one]
lo pelnimre nanba joi lo ci'ornimre nanba -- a mass of a lemon bar and (mixed with) a lime bar [a bar that has to do with lemon and a bar that has to do with lime, together forming a mixture of such a nature that it makes best sense if it is not conceptually distinguished into what could be seens as "a lemon bar" and what could be seen as "a lime bar", because, for example, the utterance is focused on the fact that the mixture is served as one]
The second one is more approximate to what you want to express. But your question is how not to repeat the {nanba} part. So you are looking for the structure of the first one with but a wrong connector.
Does {jo'u} work for this:
lo pelnimre jo'u ci'ornimre nanba -- a lemon-and(along-with)-lime bar [a bar that has to do with an unmixed unit of such a nature that it makes best sense if it is conceptually distinguished into what can be seen as "lemon" and what can be seen as "lime", because, for example, the unit is commonly presumed to have two relatively distinct layers of "lemon" and "lime"]
Because tanru is semantically ambiguous, this {lo pelnimre jo'u ci'ornimre nanba} can refer to several instances of {lo nanba} with respect to {pelnimre jo'u ci'ornimre}. It can be a cake bar that "contains the unit of layers made from lemon and lime separately", or that "one of its ends has been dipped into a lemon juice and the other into a lime juice", and so on.