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[lojban] Re: Pakistani Culture



What would be the correct lojban of "Pakistani"? .uanai
{pakstanis}?

On Aug 7, 3:56 pm, Ali Sajid <ali.sajid.im...@gmail.com> wrote:
> As far as friendships are concerned, people are very friendly.
> Friendships are very very
>
> important, important enough to get killed over, in extreme cases.
> There is, however, a certain gender segregation in friendships. There
> was, traditionally,
>
> no concept of friends of opposite gender. There exists a sort of
> courtesy between genders
>
> though.
> Male friends are very frank with each other, and mostly consider each
> other brothers. Same
>
> goes for female friends.
> There are unwritten rules that say that you have to help your friends
> however you can. This
>
> is also mirrored in our fables.
>
> Our weddings are a grand affair. Usually planned by the whole family
> nearly a year in
>
> advance even. Here in pakistan, the principal functions are 3.
> Mehndi/Sehrabandi.
> Barat and Nikah
> And Valima.
>
> I'll explain each in turn.
> Mehndi (urdu word for henna) is the female ceremony. This is usually
> done in the bride's
>
> house. All the bride's friends and sisters and female cousins are
> there. They apply henna
>
> to the bride's hands and arms, and sometimes, feet. Usually, the
> grooms female family
>
> members bring the henna and apply it ceremonially. The principal sweet
> in this ceremony is
>
> the "Laddo".http://laxmisree.sulekha.com/mstore/laxmisree/albums/default/besan-la...
> A picture of laddo. They're yummy btw. :D
>
> Sehrabandi is the male counterpart to Mehndi. And the same as above
> applies, except that
>
> both males and females are there. The main event of this is the
> "sehra", a form of
>
> headdress, that is wrapped around the groom's head. It is somewhat
> signature of being a
>
> groom. :)http://www.apexlace.com/images/sehra4.gifhttp://www.culturesdiary.com/UserFiles/2007/8/21/p1848wmu[1].jpghttp://www.weddingeventsindia.com/images/sehra1.jpg
>
> Barat is the next event. It is the function in which the groom and
> groom's family and
>
> friends depart from there home, traditionally to the bride's home, for
> the actual wedding.
>
> The bride's family prepares the reception. The groom and his company
> is known as the
>
> "Barat". Traditionally, when the groom arrives, little girls throw
> rose petals and the
>
> groom is given garlands. So is his family.
> The main event, here in Pakistan, muslim culture, is the Nikah. A
> muslim cleric, who is
>
> also required to be registered by the government, usually called by
> the bride's father or
>
> guardian is present. He first goes to the bride and asks her, "Do you,
> bride, daughter of
>
> someone, agree to be wedded to groom, son of groom's father, for the
> "mehar" of this much".
> The bride has to agree. She is asked this Three times, and if she says
> no at any one time,
>
> the nikah is not done.
> Similar question is asked of the groom. once both bride and groom
> agree, they are
>
> considered wedded. Until this time, both bride and groom are in
> separate places. The cleric
>
> then gives a short sermon, which has been the same in our wedding
> ceremonies in islam. It
>
> has many different sayings, highlighting the rights and
> responsibilities of both the
>
> partners.
>
> After that, sweets are distributed. And so are little packets
> containing different stuff,
>
> like almonds, dates, toffees etc, are distributed from the groom's
> side. This is called the
>
> "Bid". After this is the meal. Then there are different little
> customs, ceremonies, most of
>
> them quite fun. The couple i'll mention here are the "Joota chupai"
> and "Doodh pilai".
> "Joota chupai", literally "Hiding the shoe" is sort of a game. The
> bride's sisters, or
>
> female relatives, sneak upto the groom's shoes and then hide them.
> Hold them hostage, till
>
> the groom pays up. :D It is, however, the duty of the groom's brothers
> and friends to find
>
> out the place where the shoes are and rescue them. :)
> "Doodh pilai" is literally "Drinking the milk". Traditionally,
> drinking the milk on wedding
>
> day is considered good fortune. And the milk is brought by the bride's
> sisters. Once the
>
> groom drinks it, he has to pay up again. :D
>
> The ceremony of giving away the daughter is called the "Rukhsati",
> literally, "The leaving". The bride is given away under the shadow of
> the Quran, and a dupatta, a sort of long cloth.
>
> The next day, is the Valima. A feast by the newlywed couple. No
> distinctive events here. Just, people coming and congratulating the
> couple.
>
> I'll be back with more stuff later. :)

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