Re: [lojban] Trilling/rolling R

[Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com>]

hmm, I guess that's kind of like what I do.  I would describe it as pushing air through my mouth tapping the tip of my tongue against the middle-ish section of the roof of my mouth.  The air being pushed through my mouth quickly pushes it back down again and this produces a.... well I think it's what you're talking about.

This whole discussion reminds me of the short story "they're made out of meat".

The ultimate evidence for the non-existence of an ultimate creator.  With radio-waves, infra-red, and a host of other technologies that we've discovered for communicating data with crisp clear accuracy, we're stuck flapping different pieces of meat against each other and forcing air to blow through our eating holes to get information from our brains into the brains of others.  .u'i

On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Ivo Doko <ivo.doko@gmail.com> wrote:

On 18 August 2010 16:26, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
> .uacai. ok, I see what you're saying about the flap in 'attaboy'.  That was
> one of the things that concerned me about (what I thought was) my lack of
> skill at making the tap.  I was worried that it sounded too much like
> certain uses of 't' like in 'better' or 'd' like in bedding.  But I guess
> this isn't really a concern since those ponounciations of 't' and 'b' would
> definitely be wrong.
>
> Ok, 'r' like that tap type noise I think I can do.
>
> Thanks for your help everyone

Just to be clear, there are also English accents in which "tt" in
"attaboy" is pronounced as t (voiceless dental plosive) or d (voiced
dental plosive) instead of as alveolar flap. The difference is a bit
difficult to hear but easy to spot in articulation - 't' and 'd' are
made with the tip of your tongue touching your upper teeth or the
place where your upper teeth meet your palate, while alveolar flap is
made without touching your teeth with your tongue at all and instead
producing the sound by the tip of your tongue touching the part of
your palate closer to the place where English r is produced.

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