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Re: [lojban] [update] le virnu smani blozeile'a
On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Remo Dentato <rdentato@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2010/9/18 Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>:
>>
>> 1- I still don't understand "lo (...) lanci be tu'i le kampu kumfa".
>>
>> How can the living-room be the site of the flag if they are in a
>> store? And flags hardly have inalienable locations, since they are
>> easily movable objects, not like a monument or a mountain.
>
> That's probably my poor understanding of tu'i. jbovlaste gives:
> "associated with site ...,"
> and I want to express that I'm talking about the a flag that will be
> related to the livinig room (in fact you will see it again in the page
> when the father comes back to work).
> Yes flags can be moved but I hoped I could make clear that that
> specific flag is meant to be hang in the living room (and stay there).
> What would you suggest for that?
I see, it's a flag _for_ the living room. How about "be se va'u lo
kampu kumfa"?
I'm not saying "tu'i" is wrong, BTW, I just don't understand it. I
don't think I ever use "tu'i", and usually when I see someone else use
it it doesn't seem to make much sense to me. It doesn't seem to be "lo
lanci be tu'i lo kampu kumfa" when they are buying it.
Another problem I see here is that "be" will attach to the immediate
brivla, not the whole tanru, so you have "blozeile'a (lanci be tu'i lo
kampu kumfa)", a "pirate (living-room flag)" rather than a "living
room (pirate flag)". You can fix that with ke-ke'e: "ke blozeile'a
lanci ke'e be ..."
But I think I would prefer no "be" at all here. Something like: "lo
cnino ke blozeile'a lanci noi ba jadni lo kampu kumfa" or something.
mu'o mi'e xorxes
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