[lojban] Re: mistakes

[Lindar <lindarthebard@yahoo.com>]

I was kinda wondering what that was about.
Thanks for answering!

Robin has referred previously to an essay in one of his many rants,
which I will link here.
http://lesswrong.com/lw/3h/why_our_kind_cant_cooperate
Unfortunately, we need to keep bringing this sort of thing up, because
it's very against our nature.
( It also wouldn't hurt to bring up the perfection game while we're at
it... http://www.liveingreatness.com/the-core-protocols/perfection-game.html
)

I'm officially (not derailing, but) switching the tracks on this
conversation. =D

Can we discuss ways to cooperate and make criticism less apparent?
I would like everybody to do me a big favour. Even if you've read both
of those (however many times), please read both of them one more time.
Tell me what you think, tell me your ideas for how we can start
implementing these ideas to make a more harmonious Lojbanistan.

"How do things work on the Dark Side?"

The respected leader speaks, and there comes a chorus of pure
agreement: if there are any who harbor inward doubts, they keep them
to themselves.  So all the individual members of the audience see this
atmosphere of pure agreement, and they feel more confident in the
ideas presented.

See the thread on "how do I say 'should' in Lojban?". This is probably
one of the better examples of us cooperating. "Hey, you could say X."
"Yeah, that's a good idea. You could also say Y or Z. You have to look
at the underlying meaning of a lot of things to say what you want in
Lojban." "Precisely! For example, in A, B, and C, the foo and bar..."
and so on. We all came together and agreed on something; even if there
was an underlying "Well, I wouldn't say that -exactly-, and this
is..." attitude we didn't express it.

"Imagine that you're at a conference, and the speaker gives a 30-
minute talk.  Afterward, people line up at the microphones for
questions.  The first questioner objects to the graph used in slide 14
using a logarithmic scale; he quotes Tufte on The Visual Display of
Quantitative Information.  The second questioner disputes a claim made
in slide 3.  The third questioner suggests an alternative hypothesis
that seems to explain the same data..."

THIS is one of our biggest fallacies. Read this and the examples
presented in that section. Do it five more times. Now do it another
six times.

We need to be a culture of praise first and foremost.

My suggestion is that, for every teacup of criticism, we provide at
least a pint of praise.

"Hey, you made an error here, it's supposed to be sedu'u." is fine,
but follow it up with, "Your sentence structure otherwise was very
understandable, your word selection was good, and I like the phrasing
you used in the last bit." If you have a criticism, no matter how
helpful, also say what was done -right-.

Please don't let this be a rally of enthusiasm for a day that is
forgotten the next. This needs to be engrained in the culture -now- or
we're not going to learn. Make this a Lojbanist thing, an inherent
part of our culture. Let's take lo si'o jbodau and put it at the
bottom of the totem so we can put lo si'o jbozau at the top.

mi'e la .lindar. noi jbozau gi'enai jbodau

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