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Re: [lojban] Re: "to pretend" or "to fake"



2010/10/31 Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>:
> On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Michael Turniansky
> <mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:
 (I've also always wanted an inverse of
>> nu/ka, i.e. a way to grab a bridi back from an abstraction, so we can
>> say things like "I like going to the movies in the afternoon, but
>> Mikey likes to in the morning" without jumping through hoops ((calling
>> my idea x'ua for a second) "mi nelci lo nu viska lo skina ca lo
>> lecydo'i .iku'i la maikis nelci lo nu xu'a lo se go'i ca lo cerni")
>> Sure, we could use the vague "co'e" but it's ...vague.
>
> But what if the "abstraction" was at the next level down:
>
>  mi mutce lo ka nelci lo nu viska lo skina ca lo lecydo'i .i ku'i la
> maikis cu nelci lo nu ??? ca lo cerni
>
> The problem with back counting pro-things is that they don't work.
>

 ??? -> xu'a ra in this case.  (or xu'a rixivo (or is is rixici?  I
was never very clear if the convention was "ri"="rixipa" or
"ri"="rixino"))  The major problem is there is nothing in GOhA (as I
understand it) that refers to sub-bridis, only main bridis (except for
the special case of no'a).  But we can refer to any (non prosumti)
sumti we want, no matter how far down it is, since ri/ra/ru and
abu/by/cy "see" all levels at once. So since we can do that, I'm just
looking for a abstraction undoer...

         --gejyspa

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