Re: [lojban] cu-alike for other situations

[Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com>]

I think I've been misunderstanding {cu} for a long time now so I'd like to get that straightened out before I try to weigh in any further on this topic.

So, currently {cu} will break you out to the next appropriate bridi (i.e. the next bridi that is waiting for a selbri) and not necessarily out to the "main" bridi?  If this is true, then I understand why people are asking why {vau} would not work.  

On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 6:27 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 3:40 PM, John E Clifford <kali9putra@yahoo.com> wrote:

All this is a little outside my range, but Logjan has a history of right hand
end problems, both in specifying them and in using those specs correctly.  Any
device that does this efficiently and surely would be universally welcomed
(after the carping about details and destroying the purity of the language are
over, of course).

 

It seems to me that this kind of construct would make most if not elidable terminators basically unneccesary. I could be wrong on that, and I'm not stating a desire for that to happen.

 

In any case, if there are cases where "vau FA" isn't enough, I think it would make most sense to alter the grammar of {vau} so that it /is/ enough, rather than creating another word. I don't personally think using {cu} in that respect is a good idea, but I do like the idea of having a word that does as Robin proposes.

 

----- Original Message ----
From: Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org>
To: lojban@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sun, October 31, 2010 4:31:23 PM
Subject: Re: [lojban] cu-alike for other situations

On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 06:27:58PM -0300, Jorge Llambías wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 6:19 PM, Robin Lee Powell
> <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
> >
> > I found the example as-is perfectly useful; to me it is much
> > easier to think "I want to do the x3 of the next outer bridi
> > now" and just *say that* then have to figure out what I need to
> > close to achieve that result.  The way I proposed fits the way I
> > think about the language a lot better.
>
> How does the proposed "cu fi" differ from the current "vau fi"
> then?
>
> "vau" tells you to terminate the current bridi and move on.

I seem to recall cases where vau wasn't sufficient to do what I
want, but nothing's coming to mind at the moment.  The next time
that happens I'll try to take note.

-Robin

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