Re: [lojban] Another comic (Again!)

[Remo Dentato <rdentato@gmail.com>]

The more I think about it, the more I like xorxes {cikna} and {sipna}
for "on" and "off" when applied to a machine. We might have problem
with androids though :)

What about:

cikmi'i  "x_1 is a turned on machine/apparatus for use/function x_2"

and

sipmi'i  "x_1 is a turned off machine/apparatus for use/function x_2"


So, {cikmi'igau} would be "turn on" and {sipmi'igau} would be "turn off".

What do you think?

On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Remo Dentato <rdentato@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2010/11/2 Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>:
>> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 11:07 AM, Remo Dentato <rdentato@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> At the moment I have:  {pu sazgau fi le sinxa} = "the signal has been
>>> activated"
>>
>> I'm not sure I see the connection between sazri and "activate".
>
> Oh! I would have said I took {sazgau} from jbovlaste but I can't seem
> to find it anywhere!
> I can't remember how I came up with this one.
>
>
>> I've always missed a couple (or at least one) gismu for "is on" and
>> "is off". The best I came up with is cando/tolcando or cando/cikna or
>> sipna/cikna.
>>
>> I would probably have used "tolcadgau" or "cikygau" for "activate".
>
> Also Pierre suggested {tolcadgau}.
>
> I can see that {lo tolcando} must be "on" (if it's an apparate or a
> machine) but {lo cando} is not necessarily "off" (it could be "on" but
> simply doing nothing). It seems un-lojbanic to me to have {tolbroda}
> not being the real opposite of {broda}.
>
> What if we consider that something that is "on" is "capable of some
> activity" and something that is "off" is not?
>
> Remo
>

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