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Re: [lojban] Time for the perenial other-centric-.ui conversation
On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 6:10 PM, John E Clifford <kali9putra@yahoo.com> wrote:
> So, the question is how a word that expresses the speaker's emotions comes
> to have a propositional function: How are you feeling on the happiness
> scale?
No, "ui pei" just asks the interlocutor to express themself using the
"ui ___" format. The paraphrase "How are you feeling on the happiness
sacle?" is just that, a paraphrase.
> So, here
> is a cute dodge; never mind it literally makes no sense (indeed, a mark of a
> good idiom).
It makes as much sense as any other question.
> The other UICAI are expressions of MY emotion; this is now
> suddenly of YOURS which, of course makes no sense.
When I make I claim, say "la .djan. klama lo zarci", the claim is MY
claim. When I ask a question, the bridi is sudenly no longer MY claim,
but a pattern for you to make a claim. The relationship between "ui
pei" and "ui sai" is no different from that between "la .djan. klama
ma" and "la .djan. klama lo zarci" in that respect.
> The problems seems to
> lie ultimately with 'pei' itself: it calls upon a person to express his
> emotion, but not as an expression of an emotion, rather as an factual answer
> to a factual question
No, "ui pei" asks the person to respond "ui ja'ai" or "ui nai" (or any
of the other possibilities).
mu'o mi'e xorxes
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