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Re: [lojban] Time for the perenial other-centric-.ui conversation



Before I translate it into Lojban, I want to know what you mean by it.  As far as I can see, this has nothing to do with the topic at hand (da'oi).  It appears to be a _expression_ of an emotion, either a sympathetic one of pain ("Owie") or a primary one of some level of discomfort ("Eeew"), followed by a declarative sentence (the _expression_ goes with but does not modify the sentence) about how something looks (presumably open wounds, perhaps contorted face, perhaps just knowledge of how that event has felt when you did what looked like the same thing).  But none of this involves  the use of 'da'oi': the sentence is just a sentence and the long o is either a UI or a UI dai depending.on which _expression_ you meant.


From: Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com>
To: lojban@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sat, November 27, 2010 3:01:50 PM
Subject: Re: [lojban] Time for the perenial other-centric-.ui conversation

So what you're saying is, in english when I see someone faceplant and say "oooooo, that looked like it hurt", there simply isn't a way to say this in lojban.  I don't feel pain so {.oiro'odai ta simlu lo ka cortu} is wrong.  To translate english "ooooo" in this context, how would YOU say it john?  In lojban please.  For me, using lojban in everyday life, being able to assert that others UI (with the implicit pe'i) like in ".oiro'o da'oi la nik ta simlu lo ka cortu (where nick has just faceplanted)" is hella useful. 

So just for clarification from other users of da'oi, am I doing it right? Or should I just start using {.oipeikau} (dunno why I hadn't thought of that before).

On Nov 27, 2010 3:37 PM, "John E Clifford" <kali9putra@yahoo.com> wrote:

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