Re: [lojban] Time for the perenial other-centric-.ui conversation

[John E Clifford <kali9putra@yahoo.com>]

Then what is getting expressed by the 'ue'?.  It isn't the speakers emotion, so 
he can't express it, and the person who has the emotion can't express it, since 
he is not the speaker.  I can imagine making a kind of sentence that was built 
on what other people would express if they were the speaker and even include the 
UI in it somewhere (in quotes, preferably, but we have gotten a ways away from 
accuracy of this sort).  Indeed, we have such sentences, even in English "He 
would say 'ue'" for example.



----- Original Message ----
From: Remo Dentato <rdentato@gmail.com>
To: lojban@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sat, November 27, 2010 3:42:50 PM
Subject: Re: [lojban] Time for the perenial other-centric-.ui conversation

On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 10:27 PM, John E Clifford <kali9putra@yahoo.com> wrote:
> And what emotion (etc.) did the speaker feel when the listener was surprised 
to
> see him?  Nothing relevant comes to mind and it very probably was not 
surprise,
> even empathetically.

Exactly. The speaker emotion in {mi viska da'oi .liuk. .ue } is not
specified. There's no need for it: either the speaker doesn't want to
say or it is clear from the context.

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