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[lojban] Re: Question about apparent inconsistency with "nixli".



It would be impossible to create absolute symmetry in root words.
That's the way modern Esperanto tries to work (doktorino means female
doctor and doktoric^o means male doctor, but in numerous other cases
Esperanto is not logical at all).
But I think it's possible to eliminate nixli and nanla at all.
Aren't "fetyve'a" (fetsi zei verba) and "nakyve'a" (nakni zei verba)
synonyms of those words ?

Then there can be a simple table.

fetyve'a    = nixli       = girl
nakyve'a  = nakla     = boy
fetytunba = mensi    = sister
naktunba = bruna    = brother
fetre'a      = ninmu   = woman
nakre'a    = nanmu  = man

Quite easy to remember, isn't it ?

On Nov 30, 3:18 pm, Pan Mistwood <panmistw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Back when I first dove into learning Lojban, I noticed an apparent
> inconsistency with four gismu. And as far as I can tell, there's no
> reason for it, but I could be mistaken. So, after much
> procrastination, I'm asking about it here. (And as far as I could find
> with Google Web search and a search within this group, it hasn't been
> brought up before, which is rather surprising to me.)
>
> The gismu "nanmu" virtually means the English "man" or, more
> generally, "male humanoid". The gismu "ninmu" virtually means the
> English "woman" or "female humanoid". The gismu "nanla" virtually
> means the English "boy". Now, I understand that they are not preferred
> over the gismu "verba", "remna", and "prenu", but they do exist and
> are recognised as Lojbanic gismu.
>
> From those gismu, I can see a pattern. "nanmu" and "nanla" share "na-"
> while "nanla" and "nanmu" share "-mu". Following this pattern, the
> gismu virtually meaning the English "girl" would be "ninla"; "ni-" as
> in "ninmu" and "-la" as in "nanla". However, the gismu is actually
> "nixli". My question: as "ninla" is valid gismu syntax, is consistent
> with "nanmu", "nanla", and "ninmu", and is not already used to mean
> something else, why is "nixli" used instead?

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