Re: Lojban is *NOT* broken! Stop saying that! (was Re: [lojban] Re: Vote for the Future Global Language)

Subject: Re: Lojban is *NOT* broken! Stop saying that! (was Re: [lojban] Re: Vote for the Future Global Language)

From: John E Clifford <kali9putra@yahoo.com>

Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 19:36:58 -0800 (PST)

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Too bad, it is more nearly far from functioning -- in the sense of being used freely for communication on all manner of topics -- than it is not fully defined. While that is perhaps technically correct, the definition of Lojban is so much more nearly complete that that of any other language -- Esperanto very definitely included, it being worse off than, say, English, for want of serious studies -- that bringing that in as objections is fairly ludicrous. There may be problems with Lojban (oy, may there be) but underdefinition is certainly not one of them.

From: Ivo Doko <ivo.doko@gmail.com>
To: lojban@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wed, January 5, 2011 5:11:01 PM
Subject: Re: Lojban is *NOT* broken! Stop saying that! (was Re: [lojban] Re: Vote for the Future Global Language)

On 5 January 2011 23:05, Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:

> As for the title/subject, I never said that lojban is *broken*, pardon me, I
> only said that it isn't finished,

You did, actually:

it's a fully defined, complete and functioning language, which

lojban is very far from being at the moment

"far from functioning" is very different from "incomplete".

You have misquoted me. My words were, as you quoted them correctly the first time:

"[Esperanto is] a fully defined, complete and functioning language, which
lojban is very far from being at the moment."

So what I *have* said about lojban, is that it's "far from being a fully defined, complete and functioning language", not just that it's "far from functioning".

I have to say that I'm disappointed and surprised at the same time at the irony of having my words so terribly misinterpreted and misunderstood by a lojban enthusiast.

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