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Re: Cake, Pie or Ice Cream? (was: Re: Lojban is *NOT* broken! Stop saying that! (was Re: [lojban] Re: Vote for the Future Global Language))
1. Nice, but without the choices, which I guess were part of the problem.
2. Yeah, fine if you can be sure to use 'e' throughout, but that is a less
general solution. Why the double negation on 'lo sakta'? Is this the start of
the scope problems (and, if so, why not 'a' in the last place and the values are
reversed, so I guess it isn't but is just a mystery). 'enai', I suppose, but
your double negation has me worried.
----- Original Message ----
From: Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org>
To: lojban@googlegroups.com
Sent: Fri, January 7, 2011 1:43:49 PM
Subject: Re: Cake, Pie or Ice Cream? (was: Re: Lojban is *NOT* broken! Stop
saying that! (was Re: [lojban] Re: Vote for the Future Global Language))
On Fri, Jan 07, 2011 at 07:53:57AM -0800, John E Clifford wrote:
> The 'ji' solution to the choice question is very Logjamish; it is
> easy to picture JCB cackling with glee over it. But it raises
> (not "begs" gawdammit) some further questions, all of which have
> been raised before and probably solved. But, I don't remember the
> solutions and they may not be in the consciousness of many
> less-than-decades Lojbanists:
>
> 1. What is the question to which "cream", "sugar, "neither" or
> "both" are *answers*, not merely side remarks that happen to do
> the job answers are meant to do?
Differing from other answers, I would do "do djica ma poi mi setca
ke'a le ckafi".
> 2) How does (or indeed, just "Does") the 'ji' solution extend to
> cases of three or more choice items, as in the subject line?
I *believe* it works fine as long as you stick with {.e}, but I am
not sure and have made a note on the appropriate bpfk page.
Assuming {mi djica lo ladru .e nai lo sakta na .e lo titnanba} means
"I want milk and a donut, but not sugar", then it seems to me that
{do djica lo ladru ji lo sakta ji lo titnanba}, responded to with
{.e nai na .e} would DTRT.
Bonus points: how do you reply to {do djica lo ladru ji nai lo
sakta} if you want both? :D
> 3) What about extending the solution to 1 above to more than two
> cases?
Well, *my* solution has an infinity of possible responses. :D If
you want to see it with limited possible responses, see others'
versions.
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