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Re: Lojban is *NOT* broken! Stop saying that! (was Re: [lojban] Re: Vote for the Future Global Language)

On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 6:25 PM, Ivo Doko <ivo.doko@gmail.com> wrote:
On 6 January 2011 01:40, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
actually I read it the same way.

Esperanto is X, Y, and Z.  lojban is far from being [that] at the moment.
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lojban is far from X, Y, AND Z.
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lojban is far from X AND lojban is far from Y AND lojban is far from Z.

If that's not what you meant to communicate maybe you should try saying it in lojban next time ;)

Wow, you guys need to learn your logic. Let's do it properly:

A = "lojban is fully defined."
B = "lojban is complete."
C = "lojban is a functioning language."

"lojban is not a fully defined, complete and functioning language" can be written as:

.i la.lojban. na mulno smugau je mulno je tolpo'u bangu
jboski parse
 
¬(A ∧ B ∧ C)

which is equivalent to:

¬A ∨ ¬B ∨ ¬C

which is:

"lojban is not fully defined, or lojban is not complete, or lojban is not a functioning language."

.i la.lojban. na mulno smugau gi'a na mulno gi'a na tolpo'u bangu
jboski parse

Like I said, we tend to think Lojbanically about logic. Notice how the two sentences, translated into Lojban, mean entirely different things.

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mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )

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