Re: [lojban] will you help me understand BAhE+BU?

[Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com>]

My bad.  Then I would read {ba'e pe'a} as something similar to {pe'a je'u}

On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 9:33 AM, Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:

 But the problem is that je'u, like pe'a, is a UI, they modify what
comes BEFORE them.  Ba'e works the opposite way, it marks the NEXT
single word.
      --gy

On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 9:30 AM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
> I can't speak for others, but I'd read {ba'e pe'a} as something similar to
> {je'u pe'a} as in "this is REALLY figurative, there is NO literal component
> to what I'm saying".
> Maybe used in one of those conversations like "so, a .... friend of mine is
> having this problem..."
>
> On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> 2011/1/13 Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>:
>> > On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 11:40 PM, .alyn.post.
>> > <alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>  What does BAhE+BU do?
>> > [...]
>> >>  The phrases describing {ba'e} are quite
>> >> unclear to me, and they seem a bit contradictory (which could be
>> >> because the phrases are coming from documents with different
>> >> opinions on the matter.)
>> >
>> > Exactly. There are two options for BAhE BU, both can be defended, and
>> > until we have an grammar there is no definitive official answer.
>> > (According to the current PEG it appears to be an emphasized BU, not a
>> > converted BAhE.)
>> >
>> > mu'o mi'e xorxes
>> >
>>  ...although ISTM that a symbol meaning "ba'e" (i.e. a ba'ebu) might
>> be a more (ba'e) useful thing to have in the language than an
>> emphasized bu.  I'm still mystified by the meaning of ba'e pe'a,
>> personally...
>>             --gejyspa
>>
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