Re: [lojban] Lojban to TLI Loglan

[John E Clifford <kali9putra@yahoo.com>]

Nice to hear that Loglan is not just an historical entity.  Is SL Second Life?




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From: Cyril Slobin <cyril@slobin.pp.ru>
To: lojban@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tue, February 1, 2011 6:33:17 AM
Subject: Re: [lojban] Lojban to TLI Loglan

2011/1/30 Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>:

> My Loglan dictionary has "gacpi" for Lojban "gleki", and "claso" for
> Lojban "claxu" (and "nirve" for "kunti"). Are "hapci" and "clesi"
> typos or are they modern variants?

I haven't studied the Loglan history in deep, and don't know much of
it's elder versions. All Logli, who are meeting regularly in SL
(typically three or four -- not a very large community), are using LOD
(in Java or HTML form), which has "hapci" and "clesi" (and not "gacpi"
and "claso"). Both versions are downloadable from loglan.org site. As
far as I know, there is no primitive word for {kunti}, and the
compound word "nirveo" ("zero contain") lacks the {se kunti} place
(empty of which material?). I have done my best replacing it with
"clesi". I agree this lacks some important feeling of your original
haiku. Sorry.

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