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Re: [lojban] Omegawiki and jbovlaste
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 05:27:50PM -0500, Bob LeChevalier wrote:
> .alyn.post. wrote:
> >On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 03:35:46AM -0800, najrut wrote:
> >
> >> Has anyone considered developing lojban part of Omegawiki ? It has one
> >> main advantage over jbovlaste, namely definitions of most words have
> >> been
> >> already written into it.
> >
> >I've worked with this site a fair bit today.
> >
> >Pros:
> >
> > * It's much more than a dictionary. We get a lot of stuff for
> > free. It's (trying to be) part of mediawiki's Semantic Wiki
> > software ecosystem.
> > * The above is actually helpful for me in writing definitions.
> > * It's fun to use, more fun that jbovlaste in my subjective
> > experience.
> >
> >Cons:
> >
> > * It's slow. This is not only my subjective experience but a topic
> > of discussion under "Taboo subjects" on the site talk page.
> > * It's much more than a dictionary. There is a lot of stuff in the
> > way of writing definitions. This means there isn't one screen to
> > attach all of the required data (word type, definition, &c) but
> > several. As well, getting the full definition
> > * It doesn't have voting, only discussion. This usage differs from
> > jbovlaste.
> > * The community is very small. I finally managed to raise someone
> > on IRC today but the channel has been quiet all day. Two different
> > developers have granted permission to various parts of the website,
> > however.
> >
> >In order to do any sort of bulk-upload, we'd have to map Lojban
> >words to OmegaWiki defined meanings. There isn't any way to do a
> >bulk upload without first pre-processing the data and associating
> >defined meanings. That probably represents a fair amount of work.
> >
> >-Alan
>
> You've apparently looked at both, but this seems to overlap the type of
> work required for Brian Eubanks effort with Lojban Wordnet (which you
> discussed with him last month on this list). I don't know if Omegawiki
> could be helpful on that effort (which is much more semantically
> oriented than jbovlaste), but it might be worth considering.
>
> lojbab
> --
> Bob LeChevalier lojbab@lojban.org www.lojban.org
> President and Founder, The Logical Language Group, Inc.
>
I specifically brought that up in conversation on #omegawiki today,
actually. Gerard, one of the OmegaWiki developers, offered to add
the ability to link Wordnet ids to entries in OmegaWiki.
-Alan
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