I like it. It makes sense. It's not five hundred pe'a rafsi long. And it's based on describing the idea instead of just emulating the english.
On Mar 11, 2011 8:34 AM, "vensa" <seraviv@gmail.com> wrote:--
> OK, so here's my take on this whole issue:
>
> 1. As for "register", dictionary.com defines the noun "register" as
> firstly:
> "a book in which records of acts, events, names, etc., are kept"
> and the verb "register" as firstly:
> "to enter or cause to be entered formally in a register".
> This causes me to want "register" to be about "recording", i.e.
> {vreji}.
> And, what are you recording? The fact that you are a member.
> So I propose:
> {cmirejgau}
> Defined as:
> da gasnu lonu zo'e vreji lodu'u da cmima de vau da di
> Or:
> x1=g1=v3=c1 registers as a member of x2=c2, registration preserved in
> medium x3=v4
>
>
> 2. As for "log in/out". Obviously, these terms need to be somehow
> opposite of each other. To do this, we might think to either use
> {to'e}, or oppositely defined gismu (such as the proposed {nenri} and
> {bartu}). This might work if we want to stick with something simple
> like "Enter" and "Exit" (which is BTW how most hebrew sites translate
> "log in/out").
> However, if we want to be more sophisticated, the {to'e} method
> becomes problematic, because the act of logging in is not exactly
> opposite to the act of logging out. i.e. When logging in you provide
> credentials to be recognized by, and when logging out you simply
> remove yourself. You don't "unprovide" those credentials.
>
> That's why IMO we should focus here on defining the "state" of being
> logged in, and use {co'a} and {co'u} as the "opposites" in the
> relation (as was recently suggested). Also, I think it would be good
> to have some common link, between the word for "register" and "logged
> in". So, IMO being logged in is about providing some kind of
> credentials (which incidentaly dont have do be a "name" persay (you
> might log in with a fingerprint)) that "make you familiar" to the site/
> system/group which you previously registered with.
> So, in concluson I propose:
> {cmisau}
> Defined as:
> da slabu de loka da cmima de vau di
> Or:
> x1=s1=c1 is logged in to x2=s2=c2 by standard x3=s4
>
> Effectively, "log in" and "log out" become {co'arcmisau} and
> {co'urcmisau} respectively - or just {ko co'a cmisau} and {ko co'u
> cmisau}
>
> On Mar 10, 11:29 pm, Jonathan Jones <eyeo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Logging in is a kind of identification or authentication, what can e do with
>> that concept?
>>
>> Sent from my Android.
>>
>> On Mar 10, 2011 11:58 AM, ".arpis." <rpglover64+jbo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> iesai
>>
>> I agree with {co'a broda}, although I think {mo'u broda} might be better for
>> logging out (it's the natural end of one event of "being logged in", not
>> some interruption).
>>
>> I like the idea of {cmene} being in the lujvo, but I'm less sure of {zvati}.
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Pierre Abbat <p...@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
>>
>> > On Thursday 10 Marc...
>>
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