[lojban] Re: Lojban Class at Rice University

[djandus <jandew@gmail.com>]

If anyone willing to discuss the structure/pedagogy of the course
could email me at <jandew+lojban@gmail.com>, that'd be fantastic. I'd
definitely like to be bouncing ideas around for that as soon as
possible.

Also, another idea to bounce around is this: I was thinking about
whether this would be an interesting opportunity for seeing how
quickly people pick up on the vocabulary. I was already planning on
gathering weekly stats from my students so that I could emphasize
trouble words in class, but if every lojbanist following along kept
track as well, the total data might be useful... somehow...
Thoughts?

djandus

On Apr 14, 11:42 pm, Jonathan Jones <eyeo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sweet!
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> On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 10:32 PM, djandus <jan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Excellent news! I am definitely able to record the lectures! So,
> > that's all set :)
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> > Also, I happened to meet one of my future students while looking
> > around for a video camera I could use, and he'll help out with any of
> > that as needed!
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> > Also also, expect me on the IRC sometime over the weekend...
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> > .uicai .i co'o
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> > On Apr 12, 12:49 pm, attunezero <andrew.morsi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Having your lectures on youtube would be incredibly helpful! That is
> > > exactly the kind of learning resource that I (and I assume others as
> > > well) have been looking for since I discovered that Lojban existed. I
> > > really hope that you are successful in this project!
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> > > On Apr 11, 2:40 pm, djandus <jan...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > doi Jonathan,
> > > > I'm going to look into video equipment... that would be very
> > > > excellent, if I could get it set up! Very excellent idea :)
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> > > > And of course I'd overlook the obvious choice! I'll definitely use
> > > > lojban.org for the course materials!
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> > > > On Apr 10, 2:19 pm, Jonathan Jones <eyeo...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > Ah, I did think of one suggestion: record the lectures and post them
> > on
> > > > > YouTube. I'm certain the in-class videos would be useful to others.
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> > > > > As for a place to put stuff, lojban.org is an obvious choice. You
> > can either
> > > > > use the wiki, which can be modified by anyone, or if you want some
> > other
> > > > > interface, you can talk to Robin about the details.
>
> > > > > doi Robin, you are still the one that maintains lojban.org, yes?
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> > > > > On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 11:24 AM, djandus <jan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > I happen to have a number of friends who have already requested the
> > > > > > same thing, which is partly why I want to have everything done
> > online.
> > > > > > (The other reason being: who likes all that paper stuff anyway?)
> > So,
> > > > > > as it stands, I would have everything that would be covered in
> > class
> > > > > > available online for anyone for certain. The exercises that would
> > be
> > > > > > completed through Owlspace I will have to put a little extra effort
> > > > > > into releasing on a schedule, but I'm sure I can work it out. (It's
> > > > > > not that I'm afraid of students knowing how to do assignments
> > before
> > > > > > they have to do them -- as I mentioned before, the grades don't
> > matter
> > > > > > very much. Really, I'm afraid of students being scared off by
> > seeing a
> > > > > > huge document of assignments.)
>
> > > > > > I certainly want this to be something that others can study along
> > with
> > > > > > from anywhere, following along as it continues in the fall. (I've
> > > > > > already started typing up a bit of an introduction, where I explain
> > > > > > how if you're reading this info and you're not in my class, try to
> > > > > > keep to a 14-week schedule, and try to get a partner to learn with,
> > to
> > > > > > practice conversation.)
>
> > > > > > Exactly where all this information will reside is a little up in
> > the
> > > > > > air, but I'm fairly certain I get a webpage as a Rice student that
> > I
> > > > > > can use for this purpose. Basically, I'll just double all of the
> > > > > > information online as it runs in the classroom.
>
> > > > > > Speaking of all of this, I forgot to mention that I am relatively
> > > > > > proficient in typing with LaTeX, (through LyX, with some direct TeX
> > > > > > code experience) as one maybe can tell from the Table of Contents I
> > > > > > linked to. So, I hope to have all of my lesson plans detailed in
> > there
> > > > > > in a way that as I teach a class, anyone can go straight to a
> > document
> > > > > > and read what I taught.
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> > > > > > --djandus
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> > > > > > On Apr 10, 3:11 am, Jonathan Jones <eyeo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > Well, I can only think of two things to say: First, Right On!
> > That's just
> > > > > > > freaking awesome that someone going to be teaching Lojban at a
> > > > > > university.
> > > > > > > Second, I humbly request that you make as much of the materials
> > you use
> > > > > > > available to non-Rice Lojban students as well, because the more
> > good
> > > > > > > learning resources our nintadni have, the better.
>
> > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 2:30 PM, djandus <jan...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > coi rodo
>
> > > > > > > > So, I am Joe Anderson, an undergraduate at Rice, and am
> > planning on
> > > > > > > > teaching a class on Lojban in the fall.
> > > > > > > > (http://courses.rice.edu/admweb/swkscat.main?
> > > > > > > > p_action=COURSE&p_crn=16915&p_term=201210)
>
> > > > > > > > I know a lot about Lojban, but I'm going to have to work like
> > crazy to
> > > > > > > > put this together, especially over the summer. I originally
> > learned
> > > > > > > > Lojban through Lojban for Beginners, about 3 years ago. I have
> > started
> > > > > > > > visiting the IRC only recently, learning a lot about how the
> > language
> > > > > > > > has been changing in Lojbanistan since that teaching aid was
> > created.
> > > > > > > > I've been playing around with many other teaching aids,
> > especially
> > > > > > > > Anki, and have many ideas for how to structure the class. I've
> > also
> > > > > > > > been working closely with a French professor here who studies
> > teaching
> > > > > > > > languages in general. With her help, I've already made a pretty
> > > > > > > > accurate table of contents for the course, which I have
> > uploaded here:
> > > > > > > >http://jandew.ersoft.org/lojban/contents.pdf
> > > > > > > > My main objectives are to teach proficiency in conversation and
> > cover
> > > > > > > > the grammar of approximately half of Lojban for Beginners. From
> > my
> > > > > > > > table of contents, you can note that this entails teaching
> > everything
> > > > > > > > up to tenses, where including the last chapter in my lesson
> > plans is
> > > > > > > > entirely up to how much lesson time I have. As for the time I
> > have,
> > > > > > > > I'm given a one-hour class a week for 14 weeks. My plan is to
> > have as
> > > > > > > > much talking as possible in class, with vocabulary and
> > exercises being
> > > > > > > > covered outside of class. To do that, I'm wanting to write up
> > > > > > > > exercises that can be completed online (I'm currently
> > investigating
> > > > > > > > how much I can do with Owlspace) and require students to use
> > Anki and
> > > > > > > > somehow turn in their study results. (I know Anki keeps track
> > of that
> > > > > > > > very well.) There's obviously a lot of parts to this, but with
> > > > > > > > everything so primordial, here's what I'd love to have help
> > with:
> > > > > > > >   Lesson plans:
> > > > > > > >      The theory behind ordering the courses as I have, making
> > sure
> > > > > > > > the general plans are good
> > > > > > > >      What I'll be covering in class, how to keep students on
> > their
> > > > > > > > toes
> > > > > > > >      Exercises to give outside of class, creative assignments
> > > > > > > >      The vocabulary I will cover -- how much per week, what
> > order,
> > > > > > > > etc.
> > > > > > > >      Any ideas about study materials -- I'm going to keep it
> > simple,
> > > > > > > > with vocabulary in one place, (Anki,) and other exercises in
> > another.
> > > > > > > > (online, probably Owlspace) If anyone has interesting ideas on
> > cool
> > > > > > > > study materials I could put it, I'd love to try to fit it in
> > > > > > > > somewhere.
> > > > > > > >   I also need support in teaching me -- I need to get more
> > proficient
> > > > > > > > in speaking Lojban in the areas I will be teaching. I am not
> > lacking
> > > > > > > > so much in the concepts as the vocabulary. I want to get the
> > students
> > > > > > > > used to Lojban conversation, and I'm still not used to it, yet!
> > > > > > > >   There is a strong possibility that I can organize one day to
> > have a
> > > > > > > > computer lab trip for a videoconference with other Lojbanists!
> > I think
> > > > > > > > this would be a really fun way to end things, making sure that
> > the
> > > > > > > > students get connected with Lojbanistan. Any interested in
> > helping
> > > > > > > > with that may need to do the same as I, practicing conversation
> > with
> > > > > > > > the basic tools I will end up teaching over the semester.
> > > > > > > >   One day must be spent "outside of class" as a requirement for
> > > > > > > > student-taught courses at Rice. Ideas for this are welcome --
> > right
> > > > > > > > now, the best I've got is something like a scavenger hunt on
> > campus.
> > > > > > > > (note that with a videoconference and a day-outside-of-class,
> > that
> > > > > > > > means I really only have 12 weeks of class that I can count on)
> > > > > > > >   Any suggestions on communication. Right now, I'm only really
> > > > > > > > accustomed to email and the IRC. This is my first post on the
> > mailing
> > > > > > > > list. I have browsed around a lot on lojban.org, but there's a
> > lot of
> > > > > > > > information there, and if anyone recognizes some great online
> > resource
> > > > > > > > for anything, even talking about this, (in case this discussion
> > > > > > > > clutters up the mailing list or something,) then feel free to
> > speak up
> > > > > > > > about it.
> > > > > > > >   I happen to know how to program in python, and I've been
> > working on
> > > > > > > > a few study programs to help, say, learn the numbers. I'd love
> > people
> > > > > > > > to help suggest improvements for those as well, as I write
> > them.
>
> > > > > > > > In working through this, I will for certain be able to have the
> > > > > > > > resources associated with Owlspace, which basically entails
> > easy
> > > > > > > > communication with students and ability to have assignments on
> > there,
> > > > > > > > in a variety of ways. I will be investigating its capabilities
> > as soon
> > > > > > > > as possible. I probably will have access to it after Fall
> > > > > > > > Registration, which begins tomorrow. I will also start getting
> > numbers
> > > > > > > > of people signed up for the course then.
>
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