Re: [lojban] Re: xu dai

["John E. Clifford" <kali9putra@yahoo.com>]

Well, aside from the fact that I have never heard anyone say that (to the best of my knowledge), what could it possibly mean?  It looks like a factual claim, but admittedly is not.  So it looks like a certain style of psychobabble from some time ago -- along with "I hear what you're saying" and the like.  Surely that has no place in a logical language any more than in a reasonable culture.  It might, I suppose, be an indirect way to ask a question, but it seems foredoomed to fail in most cases, since the obvious response is "No, I didn't", not an answer.  I just don't see how anyone else's mental states has anything to do with my question and I don't see how my top level 'xu', however gussied up, can not be a question.

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On Jul 13, 2011, at 17:48, Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 2:45 PM, John E Clifford <kali9putra@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>  What would be the parallel in asking a question?  Apparently,
>> having a sense that another person wants to ask a question so asking it for
>> them.  It is my question. even if I don't care about the answer and someone else
>> does. just as it is my feeling, even if it reflects someone else's emotions,  I
>> don't find the "just as" at all plausible and, even if it were, what could be
>> the point of marking this -- except, perhaps to disassociate yourself from the
>> question, an occasionally useful ploy.
> 
> In English you obtain roughly the same effect by tagging your question
> with "I hear you ask", which is usually not literal hearing.
> 
> mu'o mi'e xorxes
> 
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