Re: [lojban] groupyness in definitions

[Stela Selckiku <selckiku@gmail.com>]

On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
> Is there a way to say "all of the things in xyxipa taken as individuals
> are different from each of (all of the things in the set xyxipa minus itself
> as individuals) in property xyxire".

Well, I think you've figured it out yourself.  Each of them isn't
actually different from each of them, for each of them there's one of
them (itself) from which it differs not at all.  So, perhaps {da'a}:
{ro me xy xi pa cu frica da'a me xy xi pa xy xi re}.  Or to be more
specific something like: {ro me xy xi pa cu frica ro me xy xi pa poi
na du vo'a ku'o xy xi re}.

But incidentally I'm not sure that's what {vrici} means.  I would say
it means only that {ro me xy xi pa cu na dunli ro me xy xi pa xy xi
re}, that they are not all the same in that quality, and perhaps
implying that there's quite a variety, but for instance I would say
that a bunch of balls which are each either yellow, red, or blue would
collectively {vrici lo ka skari} even though many pairs of them are
identically colored.

mu'o mi'e la stela selckiku

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