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Re: [lojban] Gerunds, infinitives and other technicalities



Do you mean now or under the future xornu?
BTW.  I was agreeing that it did seem odd that we distinguished types of events as subordinate but not in main clauses. I have tried to figure out what the logic differences are among the event types and they all seem to be about what one can say and I am not sure how they work out in Lojban.  I think we can distinguish ending from completing (vital for activity-process); I am less sure about other notions.  An achievement is generally the completion of a process, as it's telic  nature more or less guarantees, though sometimes the mere change of state, without reference to the forces involved, is also included: eating after a period of frustrated attempts, surely, change of energy state of an electron not so clearly.  In any case, these differences, if they are significant at all, are surely as (or, probably, more) for main clauses, where the action is.  But I am not sure they matter at all since the can be built into the presuppositions of any argument where they play a role.

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On Jul 30, 2011, at 16:54, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:

Oh.... so what's the difference between {nu} and {su'u}?

2011/7/30 Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>
On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
> Right.  Could we just instead say things like {mi zgana lo nu'ai do citka
> keiku no'u lo fasnu} if it's really that important that we specify that this
> is an event and not a process/state/etc...?

No need for "nu'ai". "nu" is already, by definition, the cover term
for the four event categories: pu'u, zu'o, za'i and mu'e.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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