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Re: [lojban] proportions



On Tuesday 23 August 2011 14:04:17 djandus wrote:
> So, I just wanted to know, what's the official way to do a few quantifying
> things right now?
>
> How can I translate each of the following into Lojban:
> 1. You like two of my shoes.
> 2. You like both of my shoes.
> 3. You like two of my three shoes.

.i do nelci re lo mi cutci
.i do nelci ro re lo mi cutci
.i do nelci re lo mi ci cutci

> The first one is a bit of confirmation. I would use 1:{do nelci re cutci pe
> mi}.
>
> I have two main concerns between the other two, with so many little
> questions on the side.
>
> For one, is one way to do proportions 3:{do nelci refi'uci lo cutci pe mi}?
> If so, what about implications of 2/3 of a group of 6 or 9? Is that an
> issue with {loi}? Can I get rid of lo in the last bit, by {refi'uci lo
> cutci} == {refi'uci cutci}? Is there an easier way? Are there alternate
> ways? What's the point of lo's inner quantifier, and can it help with
> anything like this? (This was demonstrated in "ancient" texts, but not it
> post-xorlo writings, so what happens now?) And, while I'm at it, does using
> {loi} here instead of {lo} make any explicit difference past an implication
> of {do} liking the group distributively?

do nelci refi'uci loi cutci pe mi. If you said "lo", that would mean 2/3 of a 
shoe, out of however many shoes you have. If you said "do nelci cifi'ure loi 
me cutci", and you have 6 shoes, that means I like 9 of them.

Pierre
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