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Re: [lojban] random things





On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 5:40 AM, djandus <jandew@gmail.com> wrote:
This is a lot of random things, some of which could probably be answered by better cll reading, but I've already been on there for the past {so'i} hours, so... yeah.

So, I was thinking about {PA ka'o PA}, and how it's automatically in the rectangular imaginary space (a + bi), and I was wondering what it would take to swap to polar (a e^ib). This would obviously be {PA te'o te'a ka'o PA}, which in some cases could be obnoxious to use. I then became curious about if I could assign a word for it, etc. etc. I mean, could I assign the word {te'a'o} to be exp()? (I'm mainly asking about the "Would that word violate any morphology rules?" part.)

Then going to declaration of functions, I remembered a question I had a while back. Can you use pro-valsi assignment cmavo to set words you want to define? As in, there always comes a time when a speaker wants to make up a word for something rather than use {broda} -- so, he might define a less-temporary brivla that he expects to use much later in a similar context. He could, of course, use {smuni}, but that would imply the brivla is official -- it makes more sense to me to be able to use {cei} to define it.

One last thing that came up while I was browsing the cll regards modal sentence connection. (http://dag.github.com/cll/9/7/) The cll doesn't explicitly provide examples of this, but I expect from the text that you can use modal connection to imply any abstraction, as with
{mi djuno do .idu'ibo mi djuno lo mi xance} or
{mi djuno du'igi do gi lo mi xance} for
"I know you like the back of my hand"

Assuming {mi drani}, does it then make sense to use relativised pro-sumti inside modally connected bridi, like so:
{mi djuno do .i fi'o se banli bo do pendo ce'u} for
"My knowing you has greatness in property being-befriended-by-you"
which is a really obscure example, I know, but bear with me here. Does that construction make sense?
 
 
  No.  As it says in Chapter 9, the end of section 8:

Note: Due to restrictions on the Lojban parsing algorithm, it is not possible to form modal connectives using the ``fi'o''-plus-selbri form of modal. Only the predefined modals of selma'o BAI can be compounded as shown in Sections 7 and 8.

 

The end of this is I'd love to have a translation for Bilbo's great line, "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." I've gotten started with the following:
{mi na djuno pi mu do .idu'ibo??? .i mi nelci me'i pi mu do ???}
Not only am I stuck with how to relate the clauses, but I'm also stuck with how to translate "should"...
 
Try this:
 
mi se slabu do fo su'e pi mu lo ni mi djica no'a .ije mi nelci me'i pi mu do se kai  pi mu lo ni se jerna do
       --gejyspa
 

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