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[lojban] Re: skari



The gismu colors varies in hue, not in saturation or value.

color lujvos built from tanru with seltau xekri has a (color) value of
192, and if the tertau is xekri then the (color) value is 64.
color lujvos built from tanru with seltau blabi has a (color)
saturation of 192, and if the tertau is blabi then the (color)
saturation is 64.

But I don't understand the relation between blabi-xekri and carmi-
kandi, respectively.

mu'o mi'e jongausib

On 27 Okt, 12:21, jongausib <so.cool....@gmail.com> wrote:
> Just a minor change:
>
> {xunre} x1 is red [color adjective] in color system x2 [default
> approximatively RGB
> #FF0000/ CMYK (0, 100, 100, 0)].
>
> I don't think anyone is going to talk about exact colors, but even if
> you're talking more approximative, you could still use the exact color
> value as a reference.
> and if you really mean the exact color value you can maybe say
> something like: {satci xunre}  ?
>
> mu'o mi'e jongausib
>
> On 27 Okt, 12:05, jongausib <so.cool....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > coi
> > .arpis suggests in another thread that the definitions of colors could
> > be better:
> > {xunre} things like, "one of the three primary colors in the additive
> > model, the other two being {pelxu} and {crino}", "the color of an
> > iconic rose", "the color of blood", "a color",
>
> > I think it would be good to have exact definitions of the colors, for
> > unambiguity.
> > So something like:
> > {xunre} x1 is red [color adjective] in color system x2 [default RGB
> > #FF0000/ CMYK (0, 100, 100, 0)].
>
> > Almost every color adjective gismu could easily be defined this way:
>
> > crino   green (lime)    #00FF00 (100, 0, 100, 0)
> > pelxu   yellow  #FFFF00 (0, 0, 100, 0)
> > narju   orange  #FFA500 (0, 35,3, 100, 0)
> > xunre   red     #FF0000 (0, 100, 100, 0)
> > nukni   magenta #FF00FF (0, 100, 0, 0)
> > zirpu   purple/violet   ? not clear!    ?
> > blanu   blue    #0000FF (100, 100, 0, 0)
> > cicna   cyan     #00FFFF        (100, 0, 0, 0)
>
> > blabi   white   #FFFFFF (0, 0, 0, 0)
> > grusi   gray    #808080 (0, 0, 0, 50)
> > xekri   black   #000000 (0, 0, 0, 100 †)
> > bunre   brown   (150, 75, 0) not clear! (0, 50, 100, 41)
>
> > Compund colors are a bit more tricky.
> > If you say {blari'o} - you probably mean a bluish-type of green (more
> > green than blue), and {ri'obla} probably means a greenish-type of blue
> > (more blue than green). Since these words are lujvo, and not tanru,
> > we'll need exact definitions for them as well. None of them are right
> > between blue and green, that would be  cicna (cyan). So how should you
> > interpret these words? I suggest that blari'o means exactly between
> > cicna and crino, and that ri'obla means exactly between cicna and
> > blanu.
>
> > So for consistency, ri'orcicna (more cyan than green) is 25% of the
> > color range between cyan and green, and cicnyri'o (more green than
> > cyan) means 75% on the same scale. 50 % on the same scale is {ri'obla}
> > as mentioned above.
>
> > I think this color model could be useful. The color adjective gismu
> > has the same hue value distance between each of them, except that
> > zirpu is synonymous to xunbla according to this modell (and therefore
> > is superfluous as a gismu) and that there unfortunately is a gismu
> > missing between crino and pelxu.
>
> > Brown is more of a vague, intuitive definition in the range between
> > yellow and red.
> > And the current definitions for pink and rose are false, since those
> > colors isn't just a mixture between red and white, but also some
> > magenta.
>
> > I think that most people will use the gismu colors and perhaps some of
> > the "first-order"-lujvo colors, and designers and other graphic
> > professionals would have usage for more complex lujvo-colors with
> > exact definitions.
> > Or using tanru with more vague definitions, like sfe'ero xunre
> > (faluröd) or crino joi pelxu nukni (whatever that means?).
>
> > mu'o mi'e jongausib

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