Re: Use fu'ivla more (was Re: [lojban] Supporting Lojbanic babies.)

[Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org>]

On Tue, Nov 01, 2011 at 06:56:29PM -0600, Jonathan Jones wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 6:32 PM, Robin Lee Powell <
> rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> I see your point. However, my objection to fu'ivla specifically
> isn't related to that at all- I dislike them because they are ugly
> and/or difficult. To the best of my knowledge, all fu'ivla are
> either easy to make, but ugly and difficult to pronounce, like
> {cidjrspageti} and the rest of it's type, or else require a great
> deal of effort to make in such a way as to not be ugly and
> difficult to pronounce.

Oh, not at all; type-4 are very easy.  You can usually make one by
starting with a lujvo and lopping off a letter or two in the middle
somewhere, for example.

Anything with a consonant cluster in the first 5 letters, that ends
in vowel, and isn't a gismu or lujvo, is valid.  That's a *big*
space, and much of it is extremely easy to pronounce.

(Also, I don't find cidjrspageti that hard to pronounce, but I used
to)

> I have no objections to the use of cmevla- heck, my name is one.
> :) However, regarding your point about words in which we would
> only ever care about the first place, such as with motherboard, I
> personally prefer the idea that .xorxes.(?) suggested about
> allowing cmevla to be used a selbri, with the default meaning of
> such being "x1 is a (member of) <cmevla>": i.e.; {ti (cu)
> .materbord.} = "This is a motherboard."

That's not likely to become an official choice any time soon, so of
course you'd risk misunderstanding there.  IIRC there's actually a
really good reason to disallow it, but I'm not remembering it off
the top of my head.  {me la} isn't terribly difficult, too.

-Robin

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