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Re: [lojban] pronunciation and "x"



 Hmmm.  Interesting, Pierre.  Until this very moment, I did not know whence the Yiddish "blech" for "a piece of sheet metal covering the stovetop to allow food to be kept warm on the Sabbath without cooking it" came from.
                Thanks,
                   --gejyspa


On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 9:55 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
Well, in America at least, "blech" is an _expression_ of distaste.


On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 6:52 PM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
On Saturday 12 November 2011 13:16:16 Luke Bergen wrote:
> ahhhhh that makes sense.  So the "h"iness comes from the fact that it's a
> continuous air-flow and the "k"ness comes from the fact that it's the back
> of your tongue.  Fail the continuous flow and it sounds like a "k".  Fail
> to restrict the flow with the back of the tongue and it sounds like "h".
>  Does that sound about right?

Sounds right to me. The sound occurs in Spanish (which doesn't distinguish it
from [h]; both original "h" and "h" derived from "f" are silent), Russian
(which has [h] as an allophone of /g/ so Russians go to the gospital), and
Arabic (which distinguishes it from both /h/ and /χ/). Hindi has
aspirated "k" instead, and I don't know about Chinese.

By the way, "Blech" is German for "sheet metal". Recycle bins have a
compartment for Weißblechdosen (tin cans).

Pierre
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