Re: [lojban] Using Lojban in 'very' defined contexts (eg. maths)

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doi la'oi Fröjd

English uses eleven and twelve because it's base-12, not base-10.

doi lai ry Muhammad an-Nuqrashi ry

Sapir-Whorf has two variants -- one is whether language *limits* what
you can think, and the other is if language merely influences how you
think. The former is near completely disproven, the latter is fairly
well accepted.

mi'e cntr

On 3 March 2012 20:08, Sebastian Fröjd <so.cool.ogi@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've been trying to find the reference of what I've been reading, but I
> haven't found it yet. From what I remember, it was something about chinese
> count like eight-nine-ten-tenone-tentwo etc, instead of the illogical
> eleven-twelve etc. So that could be the cause why chinese children grasp the
> base-10 position system earlier. Unfortunately I have no reference to this
> research at the moment. But maybe this could be a start?:
>
> "Other experiments have demonstrated differences in how Westerners and East
> Asians think about objects (Iwao & Gentner, 1997), numbers (Lucy & Gaskins,
> 1997), and space (Levinson, 1996) and how processing numbers when doing
> arithmetic problems is related to language differences between
> Chinese-speaking and English-speaking participants (Tang et al., 2006)"
>
> mu'omi'e jongausib
>
>
> 2012/3/3 Muhammad an-Nuqrashi <muhammad.nael@gmail.com>
>>
>> I've read a bit in Mandarin and its sisters but I never got as far as
>> numerals; mostly stopped at the Wikipedia page!
>> +Sebastian, I'd really, really^99, love to see a paper about that
>> research. I've been fascinated with SW-H until they left me no evidence it
>> could exist... If the research is 'that' positive, I might take out a few
>> old projects from my safe!
>>
>>>
>>> From my meager experience, the lojban system is nicer than English for
>>> thinking of _numbers_, as long as _quantity_ doesn't matter. That's
>>> okay, though, because any digit based system is poor at expressing
>>> quantity at scale.
>>
>>
>> +.arpis. , So that's a 'go-for-it' recommendation?
>>
>> PS. I'm sorry for late replies, those I've made and those yet to come, but
>> my connection is quite unstable >.<
>>
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