mu'o mi'e la tsani
>>
>> > The only way I know of to spell a word without using ce'o between each
>> > letter is with lo'u ... le'u:
>> >
>> Using lo'u .. le'u just amounts to a shorthand for {ce'o}, yes. The
>> problem is that if told you {ko ciska lo'u ci ra ki ba na ku te le'u}
>> I'd expect "ci ra ki ba na ku te" to be on the ciska3, not something
>> else. By extension, I'd expect "by a bu ky ny i bu" to be on the
>> ciska3 if I said {.i ko ciska lo'u by abu ky ny ibu le'u}.
>>
>> > lo'u by. .abu ry. dy. .abu le'u tadji lonu ciska lu barda li'u
>> >
>> That suffers from more than one problem, because I'd figure that only
>> abstractions (or descriptions referring to abstractions, of course)
>> could be tadji1. A list cannot be a method; that just doesn't make
>> sense (my answer would be uanai).
>>
>> Again, I suggest using something involving probably LAhE, porsi, and
>> lerfu: {vu'i me'o by abu ky ny ibu lerfu porsi fi vu'i zo bakni}.
>> The rationale behind using vu'i on a quote is that if the quote is a
>> word-quote, the (only?) logical sequence that vu'i can return is a
>> list of letters. I'd suppose that vu'i on a grammatical-text quote
>> returns the list of words. (I differentiate grammatical text quotes
>> from multi-word quotes, but I won't get into that.)
>> The justification for using a sequence in porsi3, which is of type
>> [set] (assuming places are typed, which is what I believe) is that all
>> sequences are also sets (the sequence type inherits all the properties
>> of the set type).
>> Using {vu'i me'o by abu ky ny ibu} is *perhaps* not a good solution
>> (albeit certainly understandable). Maybe, a better solution would be
>> the much longer {me'o by ce'o me'o abu ce'o me'o ky ce'o me'o ny ce'o
>> me'o ibu} which *presumably* parses in the PEG and probably not in
>> jbofi'e, but I'd never expect anyone to *ever* say that, *ever*.
>>
>> mu'o mi'e la tsani
>>
>>
>> >
>> > On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Felipe Gonçalves Assis
>> > <
felipeg.assis@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I think we should have a lujvo for the relationship between a word and
>> >> its spelling.
>> >> Its definition could be
>> >> "x1 is a spelling of word x2."
>> >>
>> >> Currently, my best attempt at expressing that in lojban is
>> >> {ko'e valsi fi'o lerfu porsi ko'a},
>> >> inspired by iesk (more ideas below). Am I missing a better possibility?
>> >>
>> >> My current idea for a veljvo is {valsi ke lerfu porsi}, giving
>> >> {vlakemlerpoi}
>> >> ({vlalerpoi} being possibly a string of letters (as opposed to other
>> >> letterals)).
>> >>
>> >> An important thing to consider is how the spelling would be expressed.
>> >> The
>> >> straightforward representation of a {ce'o}-sequence of individual
>> >> letterals
>> >> would give things like {me'o .e bu ce'o me'o .ybu li'o}, and these
>> >> {ce'o
>> >> me'o}
>> >> are distracting. CLL 17.2 suggests lerfu strings for the purpose of
>> >> spelling.
>> >> I guess we could define the terjvo to be something like {me'o .ebu .ybu
>> >> li'o}.
>> >>
>> >> What do you think? Any suggestions?
>> >>
>> >> mu'o
>> >> mi'e .asiz.
>> >>
>> >> On 3 July 2012 11:46, gleki <
gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > Tried translating this one and failed.
>> >> > <How do you write "Eyjafjallajökull"?> actually means <How do you
>> >> > spell
>> >> > "Eyjafjallajökull"?> or <Please dictate the spelling of
>> >> > "Eyjafjallajökull">
>> >> > Any ideas?
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> On 3 July 2012 12:16, Jonathan Jones <
eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > ma tadji lonu ciska zo'oi.Eyjafjallajökull.
>> >> >
>> >> > Or without using "experimental" cmavo:
>> >> >
>> >> > ma tadji lonu ciska zoi by. Eyjafjallajökull .by
>> >>
>> >> On 3 July 2012 17:47, iesk <
pa.fae@gmx.de> wrote:
>> >> > .i .u'i ki'a xu zoi zoi. Eyjafjallajökull .zoi se ciska fi'o za'e
>> >> > lerfyporsi
>> >> > .e bu ce'o .y bu ce'o jy. ce'o .a bu ce'o fy. ce'o jy. ce'o .a bu
>> >> > ce'o
>> >> > ly.
>> >> > ce'o ly. ce'o .a bu ce'o jy. ce'o tei .o bu relmoc. bu foi ce'o ky.
>> >> > ce'o
>> >> > .u
>> >> > bu ce'o ly. ce'o ly.
>> >> >
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