Re: [lojban] What's the current situation with Chomsky's grammar for Lojban?

[John E Clifford <kali9putra@yahoo.com>]

To answer the first and last questions, so far as I know, no study of Loglan or Lojban using a transformational grammar has ever appeared.  Nor, more aptly, a Montague grammar neither.  Both seem perfectly feasible to me, since there is, in fact, nothing very unusual about Logjam grammars overall (assuming we actually get things settled down).  Indeed, Logjam is, by design, pretty simple grammatically, even for a complex grammar-building system like Chomsky's or Montague's.  What is not clear is whether a formal grammar of either of these sorts could be built to correspond exactly to whatever grammar finally becomes official and whether such a grammar could be provably monoparsing.  I suspect that those issues -- involving especially restrictions on deletion rules -- have been a great delaying factor (they certainly have been for me).

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From: Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com>
To: lojban@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 4:02 AM
Subject: [lojban] What's the current situation with Chomsky's grammar for Lojban?

Just short citation from  http://www.lojban.org/files/why-lojban/swh.txt

115. lojbab: (responding to 106.)  The claim I made is that John Parks-Clifford,

a linguist involved with Loglan	since 1975, told me that he investigated 1970's

Loglan using TG	techniques during the 70's and was able	to demonstrate to his

own satisfaction that all features of Loglan were amenable to TG analysis, and

that he	found no 'unusual' transforms.	More recently, a student in Cleveland

has been attempting to develop a more formal TG	description of the language.

This will undoubtedly take a while, but	he reported to me earlier this year that

not only had he	found nothing unusual, he had identified some elegant features

of the language	using TG techniques.  The features he reported are indeed con-

sistent	with the language definition, and included aspects that	the student had

not been taught	(i.e. that we had not put into
 any published documents that the

student	had received.

So where is that description by a student from Cleveland?

What's that unusual in Lojban grammar?

Have there been other attempts to describe our beloved badna bangu? 

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