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Re: [lojban] Re: again about "out of"



On Monday, July 30, 2012 2:24:08 PM UTC+4, selpa'i wrote:
Am 30.07.2012 12:15, schrieb Jacob Errington:
On 29 July 2012 23:13, la .lindar. <lindarthebard@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm sure selpa'i and tsani and all of that lot are going to tease me endlessly for this, but I came up with an experimental cmavo a while back when I did the BPFK work that addressed this very problem.

{te'i} from {to'e nenri} or {to'e + ne'i}.

It marks of what something is outside.

{to'e ne'i} as one cmavo doesn't sound like a bad idea at all, and is likely to be added to the language, officially, I'd say. In fact, I've used {to'e ne'i} before, on more than one occasion.

Yes, it's useful. However, it doesn't help for "walk out of the forest". The thing tagged by {te'i} or {to'e ne'i} doesn't talk about where you are coming from. I've used {to'o ne'i} "away from inside": mi cadzu to'o ne'i lo ricfoi.
+1 for {to'o ne'i}.
Still it's not neutral for a semantically neutral language to have a word for "inside" but not have the word for "outside".
Of course, this leads to another, more global question: for how long shall lojbanists invent new cmavo for the sake of symmetry making the learning of the language harder and harder due to to a huge list of words?
We should really search for better algorithms (like reusing gismu, rephrasing jufra instead of imitating European languages).


mu'o mi'e la selpa'i

 
-- 
pilno zo le xu .i lo dei bangu cu se cmene zo lojbo .e nai zo lejbo

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