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Re: [lojban] {ko}, {xa'e}, {.e'u}, {e'o}




That makes sense.
If {ko} is just an imperative in it's generalized meaning then {.e'o} and {COMMAND} would modify it. It has been already discussed that {ko} probably has no shade of harshness. Which leads to another question:
How to say "{COMMAND/ORDER} ko klama"? Again new cmavo? Or just {le'o}?

I wouldn't use {le'o}; I'd lean toward {ga'i}, and possibly {.ei}

One more question, whats the difference between {pe'u do}, {pe'u ko} and {ko .e'o}?

I'm not _sure_, but I'll try. I'd stay away from {pe'u ko} for a similar reason that I stay away from mixing {ko} and {do} in the same bridi; I haven't found a good use for it, and I think it usually causes more confusion than it benefits from the subtleties. {ko .e'o} marks the imperative as a request as opposed to e.g. an order, a suggestion, or an instruction. {pe'u do} is a form I'd avoid, opting to put a name where {do} is.


Hunh? An imperative is necessarily an order. That's the definition of imperative. 

On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 11:32 AM, la gleki <gleki.is...@gmail.com> wrote:
{.e'u} and {ko} largely differ in the fact that after insubmission after {ko} you might be executed by your commander whereas after {.e'u} you would probably survive. zo'o

"Insubmission" is a new and useful word for me. Thanks for using it!

stevo 


On Friday, August 17, 2012 4:24:31 PM UTC+4, selpa'i wrote:
Am 17.08.2012 13:47, schrieb Paul Predkiewicz:
> but {xa'e} is a rafsi of {xance}, how would you use it to say such
> things as "let's go"?

-xa'e- is the rafsi, but xa'e as a cmavo is a LAhE (even though I wish
it was UI) that makes it so that the sumti it's used on is treated as if
it was ko, i.e. a third-person command.

     xa'e lo gerku cu cliva
     "The dogs shall leave!"
     "May the dogs leave!"
     "I want the dogs to leave."

Whether it's very useful is another question. {.e'u} will usually be
enough for cohortatives at least.

mu'o mi'e la selpa'i

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