Re: [lojban] Re: Direction of Rotation

[Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org>]

On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 07:08:36PM -0400, Pierre Abbat wrote:
> On Friday 24 August 2012 16:47:24 selpa'i wrote:
> > It's not a different kind of rotating. You still rotate around
> > some axis in some direction. In "x1 turns to x3", x3 is the
> > direction, and the rotation stops once x1 faces x3. It's still
> > an event of carna, which was my point.
> 
> It is indeed an event of carna, but "carna" has no place for the
> orientation at which the turning stops, which is why we need a new
> word. I think that x2, not x3, should be the orientation when it
> finishes turning, for consistency with "klama" and "plipe".
> 
> > It breaks no usage. As explained above, there is no difference
> > between rotating and turning that would require a seperate
> > gismu.
> >
> > > So, selpa'i, can you translate "Gerald turned to the North and
> > > waved." for us, using carna?
> >
> > (1) la. gerald. cu carna fi lo berti gi'e xance desku rinsa
> 
> "carna fi lo berti" means that the direction of turning was north,
> which implies that the axis of turning passes through the north.

Not "passes through the north", but only that it was towards the
north.

> It says nothing about which way Gerald was facing when he stopped
> turning.

Ennnnh.  Given this definition of carna, "turned to face X" seems
like it's just a carna / farna lujvo to me.

The big problem is how long it takes to explain it, but I think I
can fix that, and I'll perhaps attempt it tomorrow.

-Robin

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