Re: [lojban] Re: Direction of Rotation

[Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu>]

On Friday 24 August 2012 16:47:24 selpa'i wrote:
> It's not a different kind of rotating. You still rotate around some axis
> in some direction. In "x1 turns to x3", x3 is the direction, and the
> rotation stops once x1 faces x3. It's still an event of carna, which was
> my point.

It is indeed an event of carna, but "carna" has no place for the orientation 
at which the turning stops, which is why we need a new word. I think that x2, 
not x3, should be the orientation when it finishes turning, for consistency 
with "klama" and "plipe".

> It breaks no usage. As explained above, there is no difference between
> rotating and turning that would require a seperate gismu.
>
> > So, selpa'i, can you translate "Gerald turned to the North and waved."
> > for us, using carna?
>
> (1) la. gerald. cu carna fi lo berti gi'e xance desku rinsa

"carna fi lo berti" means that the direction of turning was north, which 
implies that the axis of turning passes through the north. It says nothing 
about which way Gerald was facing when he stopped turning.

Pierre
-- 
Don't buy a French car in Holland. It may be a citroen.

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