So {mi viska do} is just a handy emulation of natlangs when it should really be expressed as {mi viska tu'a do}. But as some lojbanists already do this illegal trick then let's make it official.
Therefore
{mi ganse lo du'u crino} - I sense something as being green (i.e. I see it).
{mi ganse lo du'u lo cladu ku crino} - I sense some loud object as green (i.e. I see it)
{mi ganse [tu'a] lo cladu} - I sense some loud object [nothing is said how I sense it, it's might be a synonym of the previous example].
So there is no conflict between the object and the type of sensing it. In first case you use {tu'a} or just drop it. In the second case you use {lo su'u/nu/du'u/...}
We have no gismu for TASTE ( {vrusi} has no place for experiencer) and TOUCH-FEEL ({pencu} is now what we need. when i touch {ko'a} with a screwdriver i touch-feel the screwdriver but touch {ko'a} ).
We would also need to allow in {sumne2} not only the object being smelled but the type of smell and abstraction for the combination of the object and it's smell.
On Sunday, July 15, 2012 12:37:26 AM UTC+4, Robin Powell wrote:
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 01:32:54PM -0700, djandus wrote:
> On Friday, November 18, 2011 3:48:51 PM UTC-6, xorxes wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 5:15 AM, Robin Lee Powell wrote:
> > > This is really interesting stuff! Can you make sure it
> > > appears on some appropriate BPFK page?
> > >
> > > I completely agree with you about zgana, and I'm inclined to
> > > agree with you about ganse; make sure they get notes in the
> > > gismu setion please.
> >
> > I'm not in much of a wiki-editing mood lately, so I'll leave
> > that to somepony else.
> >
> Dude, did this really never get done?
I linked to the thread on the gismu issues page, a few hours ago.
-Robin
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