Re: [lojban] CLL 1.1/ CLL 2.0. What is your opinion in the current situation?

[Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org>]

On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 12:59:45PM +0100, selpa'i wrote:
> .i la'o gy. Robin Lee Powell .gy cusku di'e
> 
> >The issue with the BPFK is that many, many decisions have been
> >made amongst those who know enough and care enough to try to fix
> >the rough edges in Lojban.  Many things have been worked out
> >thoroughly and are essentially done.
> 
> Many but not all. But yes, it just needs to be finished.
> 
> >The problem is that no-one is working on *implementing* them.
> 
> But didn't you say that right now is not the time to implement
> them? You told me to wait for the finished docbook before doing
> anything.

The docbook *is* implementing them.

In the context of Lojban, implementing a change means updating the
language documentation to match the change; that's primarily the
CLL.  Without the docbook, we have no effective way to produce a
new printed version of the CLL wiht said changes in it.

> >We don't have a lack of ideas, we have a lack of execution.  In
> >that sense, it's dead.
> 
> Again, I'm not sure we have your permission to execute. It feels
> like we're hanging in the balance.

I've *begged* for help with the docbook.  This community is full of
technical who either can help right out of the gate or could learn
to help.  I'm not sure what more permission you need?

If you (you, personally, I mean, because you think shit through)
want to work on CLL change proposals in advance of the docbook being
complete, that's fine, but until we have something that we can send
to a printer, the language isn't updated as far as I am concerned.

-Robin

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