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Re: [lojban] Re: Aesop's "The Wolf and the Crane"



On Monday, January 28, 2013 9:07:21 AM UTC+4, aionys wrote:
On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 9:11 PM, Ian Johnson <blindb...@gmail.com> wrote:
This should be done with {bi'u nai} instead, if the explicitness is desired. It is somewhat of a shame that {lo bi'u nai} is as long as it is.

I disagree. {le} is the specific article, he's referring to a specific thing. This is the reason why {le} exists.

Even if so it has nothing to do with {bi'unai}. "specific thing" might solve the problem of "any" but not the problem of the definite article in the meaning of referring to things previously mentioned.


 
mi'e la latro'a mu'o


On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 11:10 AM, Remo Dentato <rden...@gmail.com> wrote:

About lo/le, I have the habit of switching to {le} when I talk about a specific thing that might have been introduced with {lo}.
After having said {lo labno noi ....} any time I write {le labno} I mean *that* wolf. If I wrote {lo labno} I might mean another wolf.
Actually I do expect the listener to understand which one I mean, of course I'm not guaranteed that he/she will but, if I'm careful, I hope I can be understood. Otherwise it would rather useless to me.



On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Pierre Abbat <ph...@bezitopo.org> wrote:
On Sunday, January 27, 2013 11:38:00 Remo Dentato wrote:
> A link would be probably useful :)
>
> http://xanrilisri.thecomicseries.com/

According to jbovlaste, "tunlo" does not have an x2. According to jbofi'e, it
does.

Normally in Lojban, unlike English, French, and I suppose also Italian, one
does not switch from the indefinite article to the definite on second reference.
"le" indicates that the speaker has something in mind, but not that he expects
the listener to know what it is.

Pierre
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