Well, speaking of serendipity! I made a careless error, but it turns out to provide your answer. I said I was dropping {la} with cmevla, but I meant cmene. Still, if I stick to what I *said*, the problem (the one you mention at least) is solved. {mi klama paris berlin} gives destination and origin, {mi klama la paris berlin} gives only a strange destination. Of course, if I want to add that I took the TGV or came to that strange destination from Rome, I might get new problems. Back to the drawing board!
From: selpa'i <seladwa@gmx.de>
To: lojban@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 5:26 AM
Subject: Re: [lojban] cmevla as a class of brivla
la .pycyn. cu cusku di'e
> I do think this talk about a documented baseline has about worn out its
> usefulness.
Yes! Finally someone says this openly.
> It started when it became clear that the grammar in CLL did
> not correspond to what anybody was doing in Lojban. But it was
> predicated on somebody actually doing the documentation and in the
> intervening two decades, no one has even made a pass at that. So, why
> not go back to CLL. Say that *is* the baseline and largely wrong and
> then start to build the new normal, incorporating suggestions as they
> come along and get accepted, rather than waiting for the Baseline (who
> is do a week after the Messiah and two after Elijah).
I would love that.
> That ids, in
> fact, the way people have been behaving for most of Lojban's history but
> there have been no controls on them because "it is not yet the time to
> make changes". Too bad, the changes just get made, even if they are
> dumb. Better to hash them out and issue decrees now then try to patch
> things up later (much later, since after the baseline).
That's kind of what I keep saying.
> So, for example, I use dotside prime. (and am thinking about dropping
> {la} with cmevla).
Hehe :P. You would still need to show how you would distinguish between {mi klama .paris. .berlin.} "I go to Paris from Berlin" and {mi klama .paris.berlin.} "I go to Paris-Berlin" (whatever that is). How do you distinguish between cmevla strings that form a single sumti together and cmevla strings that don't? You cannot simply remove the middle dot there, because *{.parisberlin.} has an illegal consonant pair. I assume you would use a JOI to glue them and have them be seperate otherwise?
mu'o mi'e la selpa'i
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