Re: [lojban] Please, the best explanation of {le} vs. {lo}

["John E. Clifford" <kali9putra@yahoo.com>]

Lord, does anybody still use {lo'e} except for the rare C-set?

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On Jun 23, 2013, at 5:13, selpa'i <seladwa@gmx.de> wrote:

> la gejyspa cu cusku di'e
>> I was never real fond of "tai broda" for "so [X]"  I understand it when
>> people use it that way, but I don't use it.  "mutce" seems to be much
>> more salient.  I think la'u works, though, too.  (What about ci'u?)  Or
>> perhaps "so" is really more of a noise word in these cases, so "iu" (or
>> whatever) is more appropriate?
> 
> Maybe "this/that" is easier to understand than "so"? I take "so" as making an implicit comparison, usually to something unspecific, but big/extreme. {tai} certainly does compare, so maybe it will make more obvious sense when translated as "this":
> 
>    lo gerku cu tai ci'omle
>    "Dogs are thi[iiiiiiii]s cute."
> 
> You can stretch out your arms to show just how cute dogs are measured in terms of the distance between your hands. :)
> 
>>   As for "dogs are so cute", I would prefer "loi" in that  construction
>> (or possibly even lo'e or le'e).  Man, doesn't anyone use anything but
>> "lo" anymore??
> 
> How does marking non-distributivity help you to make a more general claim? Some group of dogs is cute together?
> 
> {lo'e} certainly works (though not everyone agrees on what it means), but I don't see how {loi} is any better than {lo}. In fact, I think it's worse.
> 
> mu'o mi'e la selpa'i
> 
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