One needs to distinguish between truth and success. If you and the relevant others think that is a man, you may well succeed in conveying some truth about that person, even though what you say is strictly false or only accidentally true.
Sent from my iPad I may call a woman with {lo nanmu} if I think the person is a man. You can ask about that almost anybody, especially la tsani or la selpa'i. And they can say am I right or not. воскресенье, 23 июня 2013 г., 12:28:53 UTC+6 пользователь aionys написал: On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 11:48 PM, Анатолий Гашев <volis...@gmail.com> wrote:
In my opinion, it's a {prexorlo}-way of thinking. Read these to clarify: http://www.lojban.org/tiki/BPFK+Section%3A+gadri or http://www.lojban.org/tiki/How+to+use+xorlo .
I think you should be the one reading them, because no, it isn't.
суббота, 22 июня 2013 г., 6:22:48 UTC+6 пользователь aionys написал:
{lo} can have a specific reference, but doesn't need to. Whatever is
referenced with {lo} must be something that satisfies the x1 of the
internal selbri. {le} must always have a specific reference.
Whatever is referenced with {le} can satisfy the x1 of the internal
selbri, but doesn't have to.
You can't call a dog that looks very bear-like {lo cribe}, but you can call it {le cribe}.
The difference is that {lo} means it /actually is/ whatever you're calling it. {lo karce} is actually a car, {lo cribe} actually is a bear, while {le} merely means that you are describing a specific thing as that, whether or not it actually is.
If you don't know if someone is a man or a woman, you can call that person {le ninmu} even if it turns out that's a man, but you can't call that person {lo ninmu}. (For anyone who's seen old SNL, Pat is a great example of this.)
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(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )
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