Hello everybody! I've been wondering something for a while about ZOI quotes. They exist for enabling incorporating things that aren't Lojbanic text or utterance into a Lojban sentence. For instance they ebable you inserting visual things that aren't Lojban text, such as foreign language writting or pictures (written medium), or non-Lojbanic utterances or sounds (spoken speech). This is certainly quite useful, but it results in a break in the audio-visual isomorphism of the langage. This isn't much of a problem with foreign language quotes (provided that the reader knows the language used), phonetic transcriptions and other codings that have both a written and a spoken form; however, pictures and non-linguistics sounds (for example) are more problematic. My questions are the followings: • How to read out loud a written ZOI quote containing a picture? • How to write down a spoken ZOI quote containing non-linguistic sounds? If there were a way to replace (in direct quotes/transcriptions) the content of the ZOI quote with an alternative Lojbanic description (such as a description of the picture within such a quote), this would solve this problem, but I can't think of a clean way of doing so without altering too much the sentence content (thus breaking direct quotation/transcription). For instance, {to'i} doesn't seem of much help here. :) Any idea or comment would be greatly appreciated. ♪ mi'e la .ilmen. mu'o -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. |