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Re: [lojban] A solution to a problem which does not exist (was: cmevla as a class of brivla)

On Thu, 7 Nov 2013 00:12:53 -0800 (PST)
iesk <pa.fae@gmx.de> wrote:

> Supposing the Merge:
> .i ko'a goi la .betsemes. cu selme'e zo .betsemes.
> .i ko'e goi la tsani cu selme'e zo .tsani.
> .i ko'a .betsemes.
> .i ko'e tsani .y. na ku

You are trying to solve a problem which does not exist. Of course your
construction is ungrammatical, so it does not mean anything. I
think you are proposing to change the grammar.

If I understood correctly, what you are trying to accomplish is to turn
a cmevla into a brivla.

Meet “me”. It turns the following sumti into a selbri. This is a more
general way to do it, but it still works.

Please read the part about “me” in the CLL.
<http://dag.github.io/cll/5/10/>

It allows for constructions like this:

jbo: “.i ko'a me la .uuZIT.”
eng: “He/she/it is Wuzzy.”

jbo: “.i ko'e me la tsani”
eng: “He/she/it is Sky.”

That’s short, simple, nice, and already part of the language.

Compare for:
jbo: “.i ko'i tsani”
eng: “He/she/it is an expanse of sky at some place.”

“me” also allows for more complex constructions, see the reference
grammar.

> Another solution (in a fictional lojbophone world, at least) would be
> not to use me'evla at all.
This is not a solution because there is no problem. So it would strip
Lojban of a very good feature for absolutely no benefit. :O

In case I understood you totally wrong, please correct me. Honestly, I
can only guess from your posting what you actually wanted to
express. ;-) Your posting was rather vague.

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