Le jeudi 7 novembre 2013 16:10:42 UTC+1, Wuzzy a écrit :
On Thu, 7 Nov 2013 00:12:53 -0800 (PST)
iesk <pa....@gmx.de> wrote:
> Supposing the Merge:
> .i ko'a goi la .betsemes. cu selme'e zo .betsemes.
> .i ko'e goi la tsani cu selme'e zo .tsani.
> .i ko'a .betsemes.
> .i ko'e tsani .y. na ku
You are trying to solve a problem which does not exist. Of course your
construction is ungrammatical, so it does not mean anything. I
think you are proposing to change the grammar.
If I understood correctly, what you are trying to accomplish is to turn
a cmevla into a brivla.
Well, no. I was merely commenting on the proposal. One argument in favour of the proposal seems to be that it supposedly simplifies usage (less 'exceptions'). I'm not so certain.
I'm not trying to solve any problem at all, and I don't want to accomplish anything. I'm not in favour of any grammar change.
Meet “me”. It turns the following sumti into a selbri. This is a more
general way to do it, but it still works.
Please read the part about “me” in the CLL.
<http://dag.github.io/cll/5/10/>
It allows for constructions like this:
jbo: “.i ko'a me la .uuZIT.”
eng: “He/she/it is Wuzzy.”
jbo: “.i ko'e me la tsani”
eng: “He/she/it is Sky.”
That’s short, simple, nice, and already part of the language.
Compare for:
jbo: “.i ko'i tsani”
eng: “He/she/it is an expanse of sky at some place.”
“me” also allows for more complex constructions, see the reference
grammar.
I am aware, and a happy user, of {me}.
> Another solution (in a fictional lojbophone world, at least) would be
> not to use me'evla at all.
This is not a solution because there is no problem. So it would strip
Lojban of a very good feature for absolutely no benefit. :O
I'm not convinced that cmevla are really that useful. I don't like using them.
In case I understood you totally wrong, please correct me. Honestly, I
can only guess from your posting what you actually wanted to
express. ;-) Your posting was rather vague.
You kind of did, but my very vague posting justified you in doing so.
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