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Re: [lojban] Individuals and xorlo



la .xorxes. cu cusku di'e
On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 8:33 AM, selpa'i <seladwa@gmx.de
<mailto:seladwa@gmx.de>> wrote:

    la .guskant. cu cusku di'e


        If you suggest another short term for "something in a domain of
        plural
        variable, saying nothing about collectivity/distributivity", I would
        abandon my usage of "mass" in this meaning.


    A term that I've been using, but which doesn't seem to be very
    wide-spread (yet?), is "individual-collection". Anything that can be
    expressed as {X jo'u Y jo'u Z ...} is an individual collection and
    is identical to a {lo broda} with those {jo'u}-connected referents.


The problem with that, with whatever term is chosen in the metalanguage
to talk about the language, is that the term eventually leaks into the
language, and then collections become individuals too.

That is indeed a possible danger, I agree. But of course we need to be able to talk about it *somehow* (both in English and in Lojban), although I will grant that it is logic/linguistics jargon and thus of lower priority than everyday life vocabulary, which Lojban is still lacking to a great extent.

I prefer to say that the domain of plural variables is
just individuals, not something else, but that variables don't need to
take one value at a time.

I agree 100% with that.

mi'e la selpa'i mu'o

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