Re: [lojban] Translating the Bible

[Pierre Abbat <phma@bezitopo.org>]

I think it's more important to dive in and start translating, rather than 
argue about philosophy of translation. That said, here's a passage that 
presents a problem:

This morning, the verse (related somehow to the sermon) was Judges 12:6. The 
preacher is a native speaker of Spanish, which does not have the phoneme /ʃ/ 
(though Old Spanish did). Both the NVI and the RV have "shibolet/sibolet". The 
LXX (Greek doesn't have /ʃ/ either) says "Και ειπαν αυτω «Ειπον δη σταχυς» και 
ου κατευθυνε του λαλησαι ουτως" (And they said to him, "So say stalk", and he 
was not correct in speaking thus). ("Shibboleth" is Hebrew for a grain stalk 
and also occurs in the dream of seven big ears and seven scrawny ears.) How 
should we render it in Lojban, which does have /ʃ/?

.i lo gliadi goi ko'e cu ga'orgau lo grestu be la .iordan. fo lo fraimi goi 
fo'a .i lo fraimi cliva cu cusku lu .e'o mi pagre li'u .i ko'e retsku lu xu do 
fraimi li'u .i fo'a dafsku lu nago'i li'u .i ko'e mi'esku lu ko cusku zo stani 
li'u .i fo'a naldra bacru cusku zo ctani .isemu'ibo ko'e catra fo'a ba'e bu'u 
lo grestu be la .iordan.

mu'omi'e .pier.
-- 
sei do'anai mi'a djuno puze'e noroi nalselganse srera

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