Re: [lojban] [oz] {ze'a lo nu ko'a jmive}

[Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com>]

  The answer to those last two are the method that the CLL states, in 10.25:

(4) I woke up two hours before you.

4A mi cikybi'o pu tu'a do za lo cacra be li re 

4B mi cikybi'o pu nu'i tu'a do la'u lo cacra be li re [nu'u]

(5) I woke up two hours ago.

5A mi cikybi'o pu za lo cacra be li re

5B mi cikybi'o pu za nu'i ti la'u lo cacra be li re [nu'u]

 

  (nonetheless, I do accept the meanings of 4A and 5A when their tcitysu'i are explicitly time/distance sumti, despite the fact that I would think it explicitly means "a medium time distance from the two hour long thing".  Also, you veered a smidge away from ZEhA, as these are ZA...)

         --gejyspa

On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 12:16 PM, Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Felipe Gonçalves Assis <felipeg.assis@gmail.com> wrote:

On 14 February 2014 17:38, Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote

  (I know the arguments against this interpretation, but just throwing it out there).

The idea is new to me. If someone could quickly sketch or point the arguments, I would be grateful.

Compare how to say with one interpretation what you can say with the other. So:

(1) I run for two hours.

1A mi bajra ze'a lo cacra be li re

1B mi bajra ze'e lo cacra be li re

(2) I run for a small/medium/large fraction of the two hours.

2A mi bajra ze'a pi so'u/so'o/so'i lo cacra be li re

2B mi bajra ze'i/ze'a/ze'u lo cacra be li re

(3) I run for a mere/the longest/a neverending two hours.

3A mi bajra ze'i/ze'u/ze'e lo cacra be li re

3B mi bajra ze'e lo tordu/clani/cimni cacra be li re

So basically for ZEhA you can get by with either system. (1) is the only one that really needs to be covered, the rest are frills.

(4) I woke up two hours before you.

4A mi cikybi'o pu tu'a do za lo cacra be li re 

4B ???

(5) I woke up two hours ago.

5A mi cikybi'o pu za lo cacra be li re

5B ???

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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