* Sunday, 2014-10-05 at 15:03 -0300 - Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>: > On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Martin Bays <mbays@sdf.org> wrote: > > > So am I interpreting you correctly as suggesting that when we have > > a claim involving an unbound variable, e.g. that generated by {da poi > > broda zi'e noi brode}, we should deal with the unbound variable not by > > universally quantifying over brodaers but rather by replacing the > > variable with a constant whose referents are the brodaers? > > I'm not adamant, but yes, I think it would have to be equivalent to: > > da poi broda zi'e goi ko'a noi brode I would have ko'a binding to the variable there, so I agree with that much! > > If so, how about something like > > {su'oi tadni poi sruri su'o dinju zi'e noi darlu simxu} > > , in a context where there are many buildings being surrounded by > > various (possibly intersecting) groups of students? > > > > Would you have the side-claim being that all the students involved in > > surrounding any building argue, or only that each group of students > > which surrounds a building argues? The latter seems more natural to me. > > I think the most natural is for the side-claim in: > > su'oi tadni poi sruri su'o dinju zi'e noi darlu simxu cu cladu > > to be: > > lo su'oi tadni poi sruri su'o dinju gi'e cladu cu darlu simxu > > but the problem with that is that it only works with some quantifiers. It > won't work with "no", for example. No, I don't see that a general rule can come out of that. > What value does "ko'a" get in "su'oi tadni poi sruri su'o dinju zi'e goi > ko'a"? Or for that matter in "su'oi tadni goi ko'a", or in "no tadni goi > ko'a"? I think that's the value that the noi-clause should be about. Well... in all cases, I just have ko'a binding to the variable, so that doesn't help at all! (so I have e.g. {ro broda goi ko'a brode ko'a} -> {ro da poi broda cu brode da}, and {ro broda goi ko'a du .i ko'a du} being an error.)
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