* Wednesday, 2014-10-22 at 18:13 -0300 - Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>: > On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 9:22 PM, Martin Bays <mbays@sdf.org> wrote: > > I don't know, the "TT-skimming" semantics seem to give useful results in > > at least some cases. > > broda .i [jek tag] bo brode > -> broda .i jek brode .i (je?) ga nai ge broda gi brode gi [tag] gi broda > gi brode Yes (ignoring the problems with repeating things). > (I don't remember now if forethought tag-connective needs a "se" or not > with respect to afterthought tag-connective. Depends on whether the tag is a tense... ba gi broda gi zajba == broda .i ba bo zajba bai gi broda gi zajba == zajba .i bai bo broda Which reminds me - which way should broda .i ba je bai bo zajba work, or should it be some mix? If a mix, how about with {joi}? I pretty arbitrarily decided for tersmu that if there's a tense involved in the tag, then the whole thing acts like a tense. > ) So for half of the connectives (those with TT F rather than TT T), the tag > is more or less meaningless. Those would be: jenai, naje, najenai, najanai, > jonai, naju, sejunai, and the contradiction one that lojban doesn't have. Yes. It would also mean that e.g. {broda na gi'a ba bo brode} is not the same as {na broda .ja ba bo brode}, which could be surprising. > I think it might also make sense to analyse tag-connectives as if they were > ordinary tags on the second connectand, with the first connectand acting as > their complement, so: > > broda .i [jek tag] bo brode > -> broda .i [jek] brode [(se} tag] lo nu broda But if broda doesn't occur, what is {lo nu broda} referring to here?
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