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Re: [lojban] Situation with ISO-fuhivla for countries.
On Friday, April 17, 2015 09:14:52 Gleki Arxokuna wrote:
> I need a table with two columns: ISO name of country, local name of
> country, local name of country in IPA, Lojbanized name of country.
>
> The second and third column is to be sure the Lojbanization is done
> correctly so that no rants appear. The fourth column could be done
> automatically.
Some countries have more than one local name, and for some countries the
Lojban name is not made by spelling the local name in Lojban letters.
Nagorno-Karabakh has several local languages. The "Karabakh" part (which means
"black garden") is nearly invariable, but the "Nagorno" part appears as
"Leṙnayin" in Armenian, "Nagornyy" in Russian, and "Dağlıq" in Azeri. In
Lojban I call it "la poi ma'azva .karabáx.".
East Timor is Timor Leste in Portuguese and Timór Lorosa'e in Tetum. This
would be "la .sun.timór." in Lojban. The Portuguese name is also used in other
languages. How to Lojbanize it depends on what Portuguese accent you pick. It
could be "la .timór.lest.", "la .timór.lect.", or "la .timór.lectc.". What to
do with the consonant cluster at the end, I'm not sure. "lectic" maybe?
Belarus is "la .blabruk." from pre-dotside days. Under dotside, "la .bélarus."
is also valid.
Myanmar was "la .mianmar." until the CGV initial was abolished. That makes it
"la .mranmar." reflecting the spelling. (Rangoon was respelled Yangon for the
same reason. The letter corresponding to ર is now pronounced /j/.) The brivla
form cannot be "mranma" because that's a slinku'i. I suggest "amranma". The
final 'r' is an artifact of rhotic and non-rhotic dialects of English.
Countries that have a gismu have a cmene based on it. Usually it has "-gug"
appended, but Egypt is just "la .misr.". "la .frans." appears in a poem in
Alice, but "la .fasygug." is also in use. (The corpus is down.)
Pierre
--
.i toljundi do .ibabo mi'afra tu'a do
.ibabo damba do .ibabo do jinga
.icu'u la ma'atman.
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